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By John S. Torell


I received an invitation this month from Capital Christian Center (CCC), the largest Assembly of God church in the Sacramento area, to attend their Dream It Leadership Conference in June. By the title of the conference, I immediately wondered what kind of false doctrine the leadership would be spreading to churches in northern California. In order for you to understand my response to this invitation, I need to share some historical facts with you.


In the early 1980’s, I was approached by CCC’s pastor, Glen Cole, to address the problem of Dungeons and Dragons. Pastor Cole had assembled his entire staff of 11 pastors for a meeting with me. I presented my book, Christian Dynamics Course 1, and shared for an hour or so about the occult, how many people in occultism existed in the Sacramento area and what Dungeon and Dragons was all about.

Pastor Cole purchased 12 books and then scheduled me for a seminar on the occult to be held at his church. The seminar was later cancelled. Some time later I found out there were a number of Freemasons in the church, and when they heard that I was going to come and speak there, pressure was put on Pastor Cole to stop it.


Glen Cole came to Sacramento sometime in the 1970’s when the church was called Bethel Temple and was located on Howe Avenue. At that time, it was a strong Assembly of God Church and the flagship for the Assembly of God District in Northern California.

Glen is a dynamic speaker and as the church grew, it became evident that a larger facility was needed.  Also, parking was extremely limited. One of the members donated a large piece of property and  the Church Board decided to move the church to the new location and building commenced.  It was given the name of Capital Christian Center because “Temple” caused people to wonder what it was. His son, Rick Cole, was on the pastoral staff and one of the pastors I met during my presentation on the occult.


It is interesting that Rick Cole was the keynote speaker to the Freemasons during the 1980’s when they had a convention in Sacramento. When Glen was asked about this, he said that his son went there to witness to these people who were heavily into the occult. By not rooting out the Freemasons in his church, Glen and the church prospered financially and he became a favorite of the media in Sacramento. Whenever there were any events or questions, the television stations and newspaper would always interview him to get his “Christian opinion” on the matter. Eventually Glen became the head of the Assembly of God District with its headquarters located in Santa Cruz, California, and he became involved in many of the interfaith religious groups in the city.


Many people were familiar with the television ministry of Robert Schuller and were following the building of the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, California, so he was invited to come and help dedicate the new church building near Hwy 50 on October 7, 1984. I thought it strange that a supposedly conservative Pentecostal leader would have a minister who seemed to be into the occult, defile his pulpit. At that time I was still on the radio in Sacramento and publicly spoke about this. It did not go well with someone and pressure was applied to the station to sever my relationship with them.


When Glen Cole retired as Senior Pastor of CCC, the Board voted to invite his son, Rick, who was a successful Senior Pastor in Omaha, to accept the Senior Pastor position at CCC. As leader of the Northern California District and a sought after speaker, Glen’s “retirement” was full. Later he returned to the leadership group at CCC for a short time before retiring for good.

The second largest Assembly of God church in Sacramento area is Trinity Life Center located in North Highlands. In the middle 1970’s, Trinity was on fire for the Lord and was then located in Del Paso. Trinity had two services on Sunday morning and both were filled to capacity. Paul Trulin (deceased) was the pastor and was used mightily by the Holy Spirit.

Pastor Roy Lebeck took over after Trulin, and William Vickery took over when LeBeck retired, Vickery moved Trinity into the grip of The Purpose Driven Church and large numbers of older members left or were driven out. Pastor Vickery recently resigned due to ill health, both of himself and his wife.

The Trinity Board asked Pastor Glen Cole if he would be their interim pastor until they could fill the vacancy. They liked him so well, that they asked him to be their Senior Pastor, and to everyone’s surprise, he accepted. It was made official on May 25, 2008.


In his invitation to the Dream It Leadership Conference, Rick makes the following statement: “We were plateaued and frustrated. With a traditional church model and a lot of history behind us, we determined we needed to consult someone outside our organization. This process led us to discover ways we could celebrate our history and traditions, while at the same time develop methods of ministry that would reach a changing culture and connect with younger generations. Without compromising our message, we have significantly changed our methods. This has led to a 20% growth in attendance and a genuine excitement in the atmosphere.”

Jesus didn’t develop methods for His apostles to build the church; He sent the Holy Ghost! The apostle Paul didn’t hold seminars to train the pastors in how to reach the young people in decadent Rome. Paul thundered that the preaching of the cross is the way to salvation  

For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. (1 Corinthians 1:17-29)

Rick Cole has suffered a shipwreck in his faith. Read his words: “Please consider joining us for these three days and bring some of your key leaders with you. I have often struggled with a sense of inadequacy as a leader. It is an ongoing battle in my mind to believe that I can lead a church to achieve great things. I have determined that I will place myself in the presence of great leaders who can inspire me to dream new dreams and equip me to see those dreams fulfilled”

Where in the Bible do you find this teaching? Aren’t we repeatedly told in the Bible to seek God, repent of our sins and seek the counsel of the Holy Ghost and not of men?

Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.

Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is. For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. Jeremiah 17:5-10

Rick Cole met Bill Hybels, whom I would call “Dr. Death.” Together with Rick Warren of The Purpose Driven Life, these two men are among the current destroyers of the Christian faith and the Devil’s choice tools to separate Christians from the Holy Spirit. When I began writing this article, I thought it would be a short piece to warn about the conference at CCC, but it seems that I need to bring more information to the readers in order for each one to have the knowledge to be able to make an informed decision.


Every denomination in the United States has been infiltrated by liberal demonic doctrine and the Evangelical Free Church of America is no exception. This denomination has its roots from the Scandinavian Mission Covenant Churches that were born out of an awakening in Sweden in 1878. People broke away from the Swedish State Lutheran Church, and it became a strong evangelical movement preaching the necessity to be born again, but they were never able to break away from infant baptism. As millions of Swedes, Danes and Norwegians immigrated to the United States to escape the poverty that existed in the Scandinavian nations in the 1800-1900’s, they brought with them the Mission Covenant Church, and in 1885, the Swedish Evangelical Covenant Church was founded in Chicago, Illinois.

In 1884, a group of Swedes in Boone, Iowa, founded the Swedish Evangelical Free Mission, and for some time the two denominations worked together until they eventually became two separate entities. Bill Hybels has his roots from the Evangelical Free Church, which is a merger of the Swedish Evangelical Free Church and the Norwegian-Danish Evangelical Free Church that took place in 1950.

Bill Hybels was born in 1952 in Kalamazoo, Michigan. At the age of 20, Bill was the youth pastor at Park Ridge’s South Park Church in the Chicago area. With Dave Holmbo, he started a youth group called “Son City.” By 1975, the youth group had grown from 25 to 1,200 young people. Modern music, dramatic skits, and multimedia with Bible studies using bastard versions of the Bible propelled the growth of the group.

Hybels married his wife Lynne in 1974, and during the same year, he began the work of starting their own church. The first meeting was held on October 12, 1975 and Willow Creek Church was born. 125 people attended the first meeting, and by 1977, the church had grown to a membership of some 2,000.

In 1981, the church relocated to South Barrington (Chicago area). Ten years later, Bill introduced cell groups and by the year 2000, more than 15,000 people attended the church along with a cell network of some 2,600 groups.

Hybels more or less bypassed the denomination he came out from and has built his own denomination called The Willow Creek Association, with some 11,000 churches worldwide. He has developed what is called “seeker sensitive” churches, using modern worship, drama, and friendly messages geared for the unchurched people. The Wednesday night service is geared to a light Bible study for new believers.

Hybels is the CEO for around 48 fulltime pastors who run this huge business empire. He spends more and more time traveling to lecture, teach and increase his denomination. He has a BA degree in Biblical Studies from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois and was later given an honorary doctor of divinity degree. The school is owned and operated by the Evangelical Free Churches of America. 

The preaching of the cross, repentance, salvation, hell and the coming judgment for all people has been replaced with dance and drama in the worship services, including “Christian rock music” and multimedia slideshows. Hybels is also tied in with Robert Schuller, and in the books he has written, Hybels gives much credit for his success to the positive thinking marketed by Schuller. He promoted the Robert Schuller Institute in a November 18, 1988 advertisement in the magazine, “Christianity Today.”


Bill Hybels is a showman and gives people what they want, a contemporary church with rock music, dance and entertainment, and a feel good message based on bastard translations of the Bible. It is void of any confrontation of the sinful nature of man, the need for repentance and receiving Jesus as Lord and Saviour. There is no talk about hell and the Lake of Fire. According to Bill’s own writing, his church contains Alcoholics Anonymous, Al-Anon, Narcotics Anonymous, Emotions Anonymous, etc. In addition, they have counseling centers, a food pantry, employment counseling, and a benevolent ministry for people with financial needs.

Hybels believes there are two different gospels, one for men and one for women. The gospel message for a man is that a relationship with Jesus Christ is essential to avoid mindless misinterpretations of masculine identity. For a woman, the gospel is that Jesus Christ offers freedom from being a people-pleaser, thereby allowing her to satisfy her need for inner security.

A Hybels church does not have a conventional worship service. They don’t have an altar, choir, organ, hymnal or song book and the music has many different styles. The message conveyed is upbeat, but the idea is not so much about being saved from eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire, but a salvation from meaninglessness and aimlessness in life on earth.


What was unthinkable in the 1950’s is now common practice in 2008. Jack Van Impe and his wife Rexella, a fundamental hellfire evangelist has gone over to the Roman Catholic Church and is now the lapdog for the Pope. The kingpin of all the renegade evangelists and pastors is Robert Schuller. He is a Universalist and doesn’t believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father. He defines sin as the loss of self-esteem or lack of faith in yourself. Schuller teaches that Christ endured the cross to sanctify his and our self-esteem and heavily promotes positive thinking. Before the construction of the Crystal Cathedral, Schuller traveled to Rome to get the Pope’s blessing on this multimillion dollar glass building. In a 1987 statement, he said that it was time for all Protestants to return back to the fold of the Roman Catholic Church. Both Bill Hybels and Rick Warren attribute Robert Schuller to be their spiritual mentor and father; they both claim they found the key to success from the Church Leadership Institute founded by Schuller.

A number of well-known ministers have spoken of Schuller in glowing terms, and among these are W.A. Criswell (1909-2002) and Billy Graham, both of whom are Southern Baptists. Bill Hybels, Stephen Hayner (Intervarsity), Jack Hayford (Four Square Gospel denomination), John Wimber (Vineyard Churches) and Korean pastor Paul Yonggi Cho (now David Cho of Yoido Full Gospel Church, Seoul, South Korea) have all been speakers at Schuller’s Church Leadership Institute conferences.

Bill Hybels has also been a frequent speaker at conferences held by Moody Bible Institute which used to be a very conservative Bible college.

As I started to research the background and the connections between the different Christian leaders, it became a virtual maze and was hard to find a clear path to understanding. Charles Swindoll is another enigma that makes the waters murkier. He was born in Texas in 1934, studied mechanical engineering in college and was a Marine that served in Southeast Asia. He married his wife Cynthia in 1955, entered Dallas Theological Seminary (a Scofield stronghold) in 1959 and graduated in 1963. He has served pastorates Dallas and Irving, Texas, Waltham, Massachusetts and in an Evangelical Free Church in Fullerton, California (1971-1994). Swindoll is also a radio speaker, having been on the radio since 1977 with the program, “Insight for Living.” In July 1994, Swindoll was asked to become the president of Dallas Theological Seminary.

Swindoll is not a bad person but his theology is not very good. He is a big fan of the Living Bible, which is a concept translation of the Bible. He has also indicated his high respect for the Roman Catholic Mother Teresa, who at her death bed confessed she did not know if she was going to heaven or not. Teresa taught that Hindus and Buddhists can enter heaven by their own faith, which is the position Billy Graham has taken in his latter years. Swindoll has written a number of books and quotes Robert Schuller without hesitation.

Like Billy Graham, Swindoll has become an ecumenist and spoken at a number of different conferences like Promise Keepers where Biblical doctrine is not valued. At the Promise Keepers conference in Boulder, Colorado in 1994, Swindoll rode in to the stadium on a motorcycle while the loudspeakers played the rock song “Born to Be Wild.” In his book “Grace Awakening,” Swindoll teaches that fundamentalists who strive for doctrinal and moral purity are legalists who need to learn grace.

At his inauguration as president of Dallas Theological Seminary in 1994, a great number of contemporary Christian leaders came out to support him, among them was James Dobson from “Focus on the Family.” Stuart Briscoe (leading us to another player in the maze) and the Roman Catholic Charles Colson (a former lawyer in the Nixon administration who was found guilty in the Watergate break-in, served time in Federal prison, got religion while in prison, and started a prison ministry after he was released). The day after the inauguration, Swindoll was a featured speaker at a Promise Keepers’ rally. During the month of September, he spoke at Moody Memorial Church in Chicago and at Bill Hybels’ Willow Creek Community Church.


These are the great leaders that Rick Cole believes will give him direction, inspiration and equip him to do God’s work. It seems to me, that now Rick wants to copy Bill Hybels and build his own empire in the West and destroy as many pastors and leaders as possible by bringing them into the same bondage he is in. Listen to Rick Cole’s own words: “DREAM IT was birthed from Capital Christian Center’s five-year journey taking them from a stagnant to a vibrant church after the realization that their methods were no longer effective to the changing culture.” What Rick is basically saying is that the old methods introduced by his father, have now been replaced by the methods developed by Bill Hybels.


During this conference there are two types of seats at the Capital Christian Center’s multimillion dollar complex. The first seven rows of the five center sections on the first floor are selling for $249 each, with a service charge of $1.50 per seat. The poorer people are going to have to sit further away but will still pay $195 plus the service charge.


I was stunned when I read the brochure sent to me because Rick Cole is bringing in spiritual dwarves and some of them are not even born again! I do not say this lightly because I have done my homework to be sure I have the facts.

Bill Hybels will be the keynote speaker on the first day and I have already covered him.


Erwin McManus is the keynote speaker on the second day. He was born in El Salvador and has a U.S. education with degrees from the University of North Carolina and Southwestern Theological Seminary (Southern Baptist). The types of degrees are omitted in his official biography. He lists himself as an author, speaker, activist, filmmaker and innovator who specializes in the field of developing and unleashing personal and organizational creativity, uniqueness, innovation and diversity. The following statement is made on his website: “Engaging such issues as culture, creativity, change and leadership, Erwin is widely known as a thought-provoking communicator. His travels have taken him to over 30 countries and he has spoken to over a million people from a wide variety of audiences, including the NFL, Lionsgate, New Line Cinema and ILOG. His work is featured in numerous films, articles and magazines across the US and internationally.” [1]

Most people living in the United States know that the NFL is the parent organization for professional football, but I had never heard of the other three. What I found out made me very sad because it tells me a lot about Erwin’s heart.


Here is a short introduction from their website:  “Lionsgate is the leading independent producer and distributor of motion pictures, television programming, home entertainment, family entertainment, video-on-demand and digitally delivered content. Its prestigious and prolific library of nearly 12,000 motion picture titles and television episodes is a stable source of recurring revenue and is a foundation for the growth of the Company’s core businesses. The Lionsgate brand name is synonymous with original, daring, quality entertainment in markets around the globe.” [2]


Here is a short introduction from their website: “Over the past 40 years, New Line has expanded to become a multi-media company with various profitable divisions, having created some of the most successful film franchises in history. Its most popular films include A Nightmare on Elm Street, The Mask, Austin Powers, Blade, Rush Hour, Elf and Wedding Crashers. The studio’s The Lord of the Rings trilogy grossed nearly $3 billion at the worldwide box office, and over $3 billion in consumer spending in home entertainment and merchandising.

In 2006, New Line earned over $1 billion in revenue, and its divisions in licensing and merchandising, music, international, television and home entertainment performed solidly. This year, the television division will produce The Real Wedding Crashers, a reality-based program for NBC based on the hit movie. New Line’s licensing and merchandising unit partnered with SEGA to create a video-game adaptation of the highly-anticipated theatrical release The Golden Compass. Also, New Line joined Microsoft’s Xbox Live video download service, where new release titles and library films will be available for digital rental in HD and standard definition.

Throughout its 40 years, New Line Cinema has represented innovation and creativity, and continues to do so in today’s digital marketplace. ‘Longevity with Vitality,’ has been the company’s motto for many decades, and New Line Cinema will continue to be a leader in creating and developing entertainment that resonates around the world.” [3]


ILOG is an interesting French corporation started in 1987 by Pierre Haren. It has two headquarters, one in France and the other in Silicon Valley, California. The average person does not have a criminal mind and would never question why McManus would be a motivational speaker for this company, so let me share with you what I have learned over the years. During the late 1980’s a number of software companies were started to service businesses as computer usage exploded and the typewriter became obsolete. This was the golden opportunity for intelligence services to get in on the ground floor by financing and controlling these new service companies, they would be able to unsuspectingly glean hard to get information. This was specifically valuable when software companies signed contracts with government agencies and ran their computer systems.

One such company was started in Sacramento in the late 1980’s by a retired military officer and became specialized in software for water treatment plants, including bringing in fresh water to cities and counties and running their waste water treatments. One of their employees was attending our church in the 1990’s and his job consisted of traveling all over the United States working with county and city governments. He shared that the company had ties to intelligence operations. Being able to disrupt a vital community system like water would cause much damage in case of a war or terrorist attack.

If you look at ILOG’s corporate profile, they employ some 850 people in many nations servicing more than 3,000 corporations.[4] Thus, by furnishing the software to these corporations, ILOG knows everything their clients are doing. The employee I mentioned that attended our church also told me that when a software program was written and designed for a certain client, commands would be written into the program that would secretly send data back to the company, who was able to store information about the business and operations. Each program was written in such a way that when the license expired, the program would shut down until a new agreement was in place, only then would the software company release the keys to start the program again. Here are some questions that come to mind:

·         Why would Edwin list ILOG on his résumé if he is a preacher of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

·         Why would ILOG use a preacher of the Gospel to be their motivational speaker since it is not a Christian company and caters to top corporations in the world?  

·         Are his speaking engagements with the company ongoing and how well paid is he?


There is a church if you can call it that with its headquarters in Pasadena, California that is called Mosaic. Here is how they describe themselves: “We are a community of followers of Jesus Christ, committed to live by faith, to be known by love and to be a voice of hope. The name of our community comes from the diversity of our members and from the symbolism of a broken and fragmented humanity which can become a work of beauty under the artful hands of God. We welcome people from all walks of life, regardless of where they are in their spiritual journey. Come to Mosaic, and discover how all the pieces can fit together.” [5] Erwin does not list himself as a pastor for this church but states that “he serves as the primary communicator and cultural architect of Mosaic.” [6]

A man is known by his associations and the information given tells us that Erwin is not a Holy Spirit filled man of God, but a disillusioned Southern Baptist minister who has suffered a shipwreck in his faith. He has become a full fledge New Age disciple, caught up in the world of ungodly movies and become a motivational speaker for wealthy billion dollar businesses. He is a combination of Norman Vincent Peale, Robert Schuller and Herbert W. Armstrong, empowered by demonic forces.


Matthew Kelly is the keynote speaker on the third day of the conference. He is described by the conference brochure as an “internationally acclaimed speaker and author and the founder and president of Floyd Consulting, a consulting firm founded on the belief that your organization can only become the-best-version-of itself if the people that drive your organization are striving to become the-best-version-of themselves.” [7]

I found it strange that a man of this secular ability should be a keynote speaker at a Christian conference. I had never heard of him before and was stunned when I found he is a staunch Roman Catholic and one of their most dynamic speakers. Let me quote directly from his foundation, not the secular consulting firm that is advertised with the Dream It Leadership Conference:

“Matthew Kelly was born in Sydney, Australia, on July 12, 1973. Over the past ten years more than three million people in fifty countries have attended his talks, seminars, and retreats. Against the backdrop of his travel to fifty countries, millions more have been touched by his writings and appearances on radio and television programs.

In the wake of devoting the past decade of his life to his international speaking schedule, Kelly has also gained acclaim as an author. His most recent books include: The Rhythm of Life, The Book of Courage, Rediscovering Catholicism, The Shepherd, A Call to Joy, and Mustard Seeds. Collectively his titles have been published in over a dozen languages and have sold more than one million copies.

Both as a speaker and as an author, Kelly possesses a powerful ability to combine the ageless tool of storytelling with a profound understanding of today’s culture and the common yearnings of the human heart. As a result he captures our imaginations and helps us to see the challenges and opportunities of our everyday lives in a new light. With a keen sense of humor and heartwarming charm, Kelly seems to effortlessly elevate and energize people to pursue the highest values of the human spirit and become “the-best-version-of-themselves.”

From amidst a culture preoccupied with speed, noise, and activity, has emerged a man with a unique vision of life and a tireless passion for sharing that vision. Dynamic, and extraordinarily engaging, Matthew Kelly comes to the aid of a generation searching for some meaning in life deeper than the pursuit of pleasure and possessions. He clarifies the hazy path of right-living in our world of compromised values with a message that is too clear to be confusing and too persuasive to be ignored - “Who you become is infinitely more important than what you do, or what you have.” [8]


One of the many books Matthew Kelly he has written is, Rediscovering Catholicism: Journeying Toward Our Spiritual North Star. The title of this book caught my attention and I wondered why an Assembly of God pastor in America would invite a Catholic evangelist trying to revive faith in the Roman Catholic Church to his church? Here is what the Kelly Foundation has to say about this book:

“At a time when many Catholics are disillusioned, questioning their faith, and filled with doubts about the relevance of Catholicism in the modern world, the voice of one young man cries out with a clarity and inspiration to the world’s largest faith community.

“Beginning with our common yearning for happiness, Rediscovering Catholicism, takes us on an adventure of life-changing proportions by addressing some of the most important questions we face today both as individuals and as a Church.

“In each generation a leader comes forth who is able to bring Christianity to life in a way that revitalizes individuals, communities, and the universal Church. Once you experience his bold, brilliant, practical, and inspiring style, you will soon understand why so many people consider Matthew Kelly to be one of the great spiritual voices of our times.

“Over the past ten years, Matthew Kelly has seen more of the world than most presidents and more of the Church than most bishops. Now, in this unique and timely book, he proposes that Catholicism is not a lifeless set of rules and regulations, but a way of life designed by God to help each person reach his or her full potential. With remarkable insight, Kelly dispels dozens of the myths that surround the practice and rejection of Catholicism today, and provides a profound and practical vision of what will lead the Catholic Church to thrive again in the future.

“‘Holiness is to become the-best-version-of-yourself. Francis of Assisi spent his whole life trying to become the best-version-of-himself. Mother Teresa spent her whole life trying to become the-best-version-of-herself. God calls us all to holiness, because God wants each of us to be all we can be.’

“‘The goal of the Christian life is holiness,’ Kelly explains, ‘but somewhere along the way this term disappeared from most Catholic’s vocabulary. Either because we thought it was an unattainable ideal or because we felt it lacked relevance in the modern context. Maybe we thought the idea of holiness made people feel guilty. Perhaps we just wanted to make it easier for people. Whatever the reason, the disappearance of this goal hasn’t made it easier for modern Catholics; it’s made it harder for them.’

“Have you ever tried to find your way to a place you have never been before with no directions, no map, and no clear description of the destination?

“‘The great confusion that is torturing the Church and weakening our faith surrounds one question. What is holiness? The falling attendance at church, the marginalization of the Church by our secular culture, and our failure to reach the youth are all caused by our inability to communicate clearly the answer to this question. What is holiness?’

“‘Modern men and women have simply become disoriented. We have lost our way. By putting aside the goal of the Christian life - this call to holiness - we have lost sight of the great Spiritual North Star. The North Star is the only star in the sky that never moves; it remains constant, unwavering, and therefore is truly a guide. If we are to find our way, we must rediscover the great Spiritual North Star.’” [9]


As I looked further on Kelly’s website, I was stunned again because this man is worshipping Mary and leading people into idolatry. His favorite place to hold retreats is in the village of Fatima in Portugal. His 2008 retreat is going to be held in August, 2008. How many pastors from the Dream It Leadership Conference are going to attend this “Mary worship seminar” in order to become more “spiritual?” Kelly says “anything or anyone that does not help you become the-best-version-of-yourself is too small for you.” He says, “Each year during the first week of August Matthew steps back from his busy schedule to spend this time sharing his thoughts and insights in a more intimate setting. Asked why he journeys back to this place year after year, Matthew explains: ‘Fatima is a place where I get answers!’”

“Last year people attended the retreat from 12 to 86 years of age and from more than twenty states across the US. Come and awaken your spiritual senses, unveil the amazing plan God has in mind for you, develop amazing new friendships, discover the-best-version-of-yourself, and with Matthew’s help put together a practical strategy for the next phase of your life!

“This retreat incorporates talks, excursions, bible study, the mass, and free time into a phenomenal step on your spiritual journey.

“If you have heard Matthew speak or read his writings, you know already that he possesses a rare gift to convey life-changing insights into a powerful and inspiring way. During his talks and workshops in Fatima he will help you identify your legitimate needs - physically, emotionally, intellectually, and spiritually, and teach you to get in touch with the deepest desires that God has placed in your heart. Throughout the retreat portion of this trip Matthew will present twice a day in an intimate setting... a rare experience as most of us are only used to attending large gatherings with Matthew.

“Each afternoon you will enjoy a bible study. This is an opportunity for us to become more familiar with the Bible and how we can all use it in our daily lives. Before dinner each evening we will celebrate Mass together.” [10]

Why should a pastor who claims to be born again and baptized in the Holy Spirit, want to find out more on how to grow spiritually under a man who is a hardcore Roman Catholic evangelist? I am sure that the majority of the pastors attracted to the Dream It Leadership Conference have not checked out the speakers. They are just coming to the conference because of the clout the Cole family wields in Assembly of God circles.


I had very basic knowledge of Fatima but did not know a whole lot about it. I want to quote directly from the Fatima website, and as you read their words, ask yourself what Matthew Kelly has to offer.

Fatima is Heaven’s intervention to save us from persecution, war, annihilation, enslavement and hell.

Fatima is a visit by Our Heavenly Mother Mary in our time for our time. It is a Message of concern, a practical plan for world peace, a promise of Heaven.

It is Heaven’s interventions to save us from persecution, martyrdom, war, enslavement or annihilation. Above all it’s a way to save our souls from hell. It is meant for you.

Today Our Lady, by Divine Providence, invites you to learn The Whole Truth About Fatima by giving you this opportunity to know Her beautiful Message of Fatima.

The Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, appeared 6 times to 3 shepherd children; Lucy, Francisco and Jacinta; between May 13 and October 13, 1917. She came to the little village of Fatima which had remained faithful to the Catholic Church during the recent persecutions by the government.

Our Lady’s Message

       She came with a message from God to every man, woman and child of our century. Our Lady of Fatima promised that the whole world would be in peace, and that souls would be saved if they obeyed.

       She told us that war is a punishment for sin; that God would punish the world for its sins in our time by means of war, hunger, persecution of the Church and persecution of the Holy Father, the Pope, unless we listened to and obeyed the commands of God.

Fatima today!

              At Fatima, Pope John Paul II said on May 13: “the Message of Fatima is more relevant and more urgent” than when Our Lady first appeared. The message is an anguished appeal of Our Heavenly Mother, Who sees us in great danger and Who comes to offer Her help and advice. Her message is also a prophecy, a clear indication of what was about to transpire in the 20th Century, and what is still going to happen infallibly in the near future, depending on our response to Her requests. Many souls would go to Heaven if Her requests were listened to.

The Church approves Fatima

       The Catholic Church has endorsed the Fatima Message since 1930. Five successive Popes have publicly indicated their approval of the apparitions of Our Lady at Fatima and Her message. Two Popes went to Fatima on Pilgrimage. Pope John Paul II went there twice, once on May 13, 1982 and again on May 13, 1991.

God Himself endorses Fatima

       As a great sign of this whole message truly coming from God, a marvelous miracle was worked in the sky above Fatima before 70,000 witnesses on October 13, 1917, at the time, date and place that Lucy and the other two children had prophesied in the name of Our Lady of Fatima.

       As also prophesied, Francisco and Jacinta died in the odor of sanctity in 1919 and 1920. Lucy became a Carmelite Sister. Sister Lucy is still alive today. She is 88 years old.

       Our Lady of Fatima continues to work miracles today through Fatima water which is sent from Fatima around the world. This Fatima water sprang up in Fatima at the spot the Bishop told people to dig, very near where Our Lady appeared at the Cova da Iria (the Cove of Peace) in Fatima. Still other people are cured when they go on pilgrimage to Fatima, which is about 90 miles north of Lisbon, Portugal.

For world peace

       In order to prevent these chastisements from befalling us She told us that special Reparation for sins committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary was necessary, particularly the Communions of Reparation on the First Saturday of five consecutive months and the public and solemn Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by all the Catholic Bishops of the world, together with the Pope on the same day at the same hour.

In the end Our Lady must triumph

       Finally Her message is a promise of the eventual triumph of Her Immaculate Heart over evil. She promised that no matter how black it might get in the future (and it seems that is the path chosen by most of humanity today) that in the end She will triumph, Her requests would finally be granted by mankind and there will be world peace.

What you must do

       It is up to each of us to listen, to read, to learn and to apply this Heavenly message in our own lives, particularly by praying the daily Rosary. To the extent we can, we must also do all we can to see to it that this final warning from Our Heavenly Mother is spread and that its significance is explained to everyone before it is too late. We must not be complacent in the promise of Her eventual triumph because it is still dependent on our co-operation with God’s grace and His plan outlined at Fatima. [11]


Matthew Kelly is true to his Roman Catholic faith and leading thousands of young people to Fatima, drink the “holy water,” attend mass and pray and worship Mary. There is no place for Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith. To put it bluntly, the worship at Fatima is no different from the idol worship that took place in ancient Israel when people worshipped Baal. One is just as demonic and occult as the other.


Ed Young, Jr. is the final speaker on Wednesday night. He is the son of Pastor Ed Young, Sr., pastor of Second Baptist Church in Houston, Texas. Junior is the founder and senior pastor of Fellowship Church in Grapevine, Texas. Both churches are affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention.

Junior can be described as a member of the “lost generation of the 1970’s,” when the hippie movement with its drugs, sex and rock-n-roll penetrated the youth and made many of them lose their faith in God. In order to find out more about Junior’s spiritual state, let’s look at the speakers of the 2006 conference he hosted. There was Bill Hybels, T.D. Jakes (left), and Erwin McManus. This is how the conference was advertised:

“Change is a necessary catalyst for our growth, maturity and development. Although we experience changes almost daily, there is something that never changes. From eternity to eternity, God remains a constant. Simply put: God is.

But the same cannot and should not be said of the church. The methodology must change in order to meet the changing contour of the world around it. In short: Church evolves.

As leaders of the church, we must be willing to facilitate that evolution. Through this series of talks, we can learn to do church in ways we never thought possible and discover together what the church can become because of who God is.” [12]

We can therefore conclude that Ed Young Jr. is just as confused and spiritually lost as the rest of the speakers at the Dream It Leadership Conference.


 Since the Holy Spirit will not be part of this conference, there needs to be artificial spiritual stimulation. That will be accomplished by a number of so-called Christian worship teams.


According to the brochure, this is an English rock and worship band.


This is a local worship band from Capital Christian Center. Here is their profile as found on the website: “DRB began and continues as one of the worship bands for Capital Christian Center in Sacramento, CA. The six member band was formed during a time of change at the church (CCC). Doug Reid, lead vocalist and guitarist of DRB and also student ministries director at CCC, was asked to lead worship at the church’s casual service (a contemporary worship style service) at the beginning of October, 2005.” [13]


This is the information given by Capital Christian Center: Israel Houghton is considered a forerunner and architect of cross-culture worship. He has written hundreds of songs for the church worldwide and is an award winning producer and arranger. Israel is the Founder and President of New Breed Music which is a worship movement that crosses all cultural, generational and denominational boundaries. He also serves as worship leader of Lakewood Church in Houston with Pastor Joel Osteen.” [14]


It was not pleasurable writing this article; instead, it was like writing an obituary over the Church of Jesus Christ that is made up of believers from all over the world. According to the Bible, the Church is the physical body on the earth of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Ephesians 1:15-23)

The body of Christ is riddled with a spiritual cancer that is eating up his body and forming tumors. When a human body is attacked with cancer, there is surgery, chemo therapy and radiation. The only cure for spiritual cancer is an antidote of Truth to combat the spirit of Error. (1 John 4:1-6) It is up to the apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists, and teachers to bring out truth to the body of Christ and to eradicate false doctrine and demonic worship music. (Ephesians 4:11-16)

I have no doubt that thousands of pastors and church leaders will be lured to the Dream It Leadership Conference at Capital Christian Center. They will come because they are spiritually malnourished, believing that new methods will make their church grow and impact their communities. Instead of getting help, they will be given a lethal dose of a devilish spiritual counterfeit which will cause their faith to be shipwrecked and destroy their church members, who will lose heart and leave the churches.

I feel helpless as I see the Devil moving into Sacramento this month, knowing the wrecking crew will reassemble again in some other state and continue its destructive work of death.

Glen Cole and company kicked me off the radio station KFIA in Sacramento many years ago. The cost to be on the radio station KCBC, which was reaching Central California, kept rising and eventually the listeners were not able to sustain the higher cost. The Jewish leadership has labeled me anti-Semitic and people are full of apathy. They are not investigating but just believing all they see and hear from the media. As a result, we have no outlet but our mailing list and website to saturate California and Nevada with the truth presented in this article.

Would you consider copying or ordering multiple copies of this newsletter and make sure that it will be given to as many pastors as possible where you live. Email this article to as many friends and contacts you have on the Internet. We have a couple of weeks to warn as many pastors and leaders as possible.

My prayer is that you shall be filled with holy anger and indignation against the Devil and his wrecking crew and do whatever you can to stop them from destroying one more Christian.

[1] https://erwinmcmanus.com/bio

[2] https://investors.lionsgate.com

[3] www.newline.com/aboutus.html

[4] www.ilog.com/corporate

[5] www.mosaic.org

[6] https://erwinmcmanus.com/bio

[7] www.dreamit.cc/speakers.html

[8] www.matthewkelly.org/about_mk.html

[9] www.matthewkelly.org/book_more04.html

[10] www.matthewkelly.org/retreats.html

[11] www.fatimacrusader.com/cr49/cr49ap2.asp

[12] www.creativepastors.com/series_1300

[13] www.dreamit.cc/speakers.html

[14] ibid

Volume 6, 2008




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